More on the new and better recording stations by NOAA

Anthony Watts, who exposed the siting problems and showed ridiculous siting, for example, an hour down the road in Lampasas TX they moved the temp monitor from a rural location to a parking lot. So Watts discusses the better network, but it’s still ground stations.

I always thought that ground stations were too subject to siting problems and choices. altitude, local ground make up and cover, albedo, and such. for example I live about 5 feet higher than the town and in the country, and my temp is always lower that the town reports and the airport. I have no concrete, for example, and I am closer to a lake.

I vote for Roy Spencer and John Christy’s satellites that measure a tropospheric temp.

3 responses to “More on the new and better recording stations by NOAA

  1. You will still need ground stations. If we lived in a perfect world we would have the temperature profile from ground level all the way up and equally spaced distances but we do not. It is important to get as many data points as possible if they are quality data points. The new stations have a superior design to the old ones and if properly situated they should improve data quality anf reliability.

  2. Unfortunately, the UAH and RSS satellite data are not the end all either. For example there is a bit of a divergence between the two data sets over the last couple of years. They use different satellites for measurements and Dr. Spencer thinks that the RSS data uses older satellites with a decaying orbit and is not being compensated correctly. Both claim accuracy and the difference is not much but who is right? The truth is both sets also must go through an algorithm to get their reported temps. Ground stations are still the best option for direct measurement.

  3. I couldn’t score a cell tower in my backyard.
    Maybe I can convince NOAA to put a 100ft tower in my back yard with sensors every ten feet.
    I promise not to charge more rent than the Clintons did for the Secret Service digs at their Chappaqua home.

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