Progressive Racism: 100th Anniversary of Woodrow Wilson re-segregating the federal government

“One hundred years ago today, Woodrow Wilson brought Jim Crow to the North.”

Read more at National Review.

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13 responses to “Progressive Racism: 100th Anniversary of Woodrow Wilson re-segregating the federal government

  1. I’ve always wondered how Jim Crow laws & segregation got to be big on the national scale. as it turns out, it was Woodrow Wilson, a democrat, who was behind the push for segregation policy nation wide.

  2. Westchester Bill

    I found the piece to be claptrap. Plessy vs. Ferguson had a very light octoroon as the plaintiff to show the foolishness of segregated railroad cars. The economics that drove the case was the cost of segregating passengers when going from a desegregated state into a segregated state, and the cost of having duplicate facilities. One and a half cars of Whites and one and a half cars of Negroes require three cars in a desegregated system but 4 in a segregated system. President Wilson might just have wanted to make the railroading easier in light of Plessy.

    • He “might” have wanted to do several things, but the reality of what DID happen is that the pseudo-intellectualism of the liberal/progressive types was once again proven to be very wrong on the larger scale. The progressive’s fatal flaw was wholesale support of “separate but equal” when any idiot could see that equal was never ever going to happen. the common liberal theme of segration as a way to consolidate political power (as long as the segregated cooperated and all thought and voted alike…and if you are a liberal bigot as are most liberals then block voting is assumed) was the underlying motivator.

      • Westchester Bill

        Separate but equal worked for nearly half a century until Brown vs Board. In Rochester, NY, where I grew up, the separate parochial schools produced equal if not better results than the public schools. People actually cheat to get their kids into the segregated schools of Chinatown in New York City.

        The error in philosophy was the finding, based on the work of Ken Clark, that separate caused disparate impact that is unequal. Clark’s work was JunkScience, and despite decades of court intervention after Brown, including disruptive busing, the achievement gap by race was still so large as to generate the truly inane no-child-left-behind policy.

        Although throwing stones at particular persons might be fun, it is unenlightening. That is why I disliked the referenced article.

        • “Separate but equal worked for nearly half a century”

          Whites and blacks being raised separately didn’t “work.” Citizens should be raised together.

          That’s not to say the Libtards haven’t totally mucked up the schools. SbE would indeed give blacks a better education than what they are getting today. But going back is not the answer.

  3. Westchester Bill

    “Whites and blacks being raised separately didn’t “work.” Citizens should be raised together.”

    Why? Are people in African villages suffering from lack of whites? How about the many Chinese cities?

    Ms. Brown of Brown vs. Board wanted integration so her daughter could go to the nearest school. The motivation was convenience on her part. The NCAA and Ken Clark made the disparate impact argument.

    Racial dynamics can be harsh. The blacks in Little Rock, Arkansas said “me too” for the excellent results at the segregated high school. Although I don’t know why they couldn’t support their own excellent high school, like the Chinese in Chinatown in New York City, the request seemed reasonable, and the High School was integrated. The quality of the high school deteriorated, so the black community didn’t get its real wish of excellent education. I wish that integration played out better.

    • Skin color is no basis for segregation.

      • Westchester Bill

        “Skin color is no basis for segregation.”

        I didn’t say it was. My claim is more subtle, that one expects too much from integration, and integration has costs. When the promised land does not emerge, there are those who wrongly blame particular people for the disappointing results.

    • the problem with integration was in the implementation. while the ruling was proper, but how the court went about was poorly thought out. you end up having consent decrees 50 years after the court ruling.

      one thing the court did not factor in was demographics changes. the court cannot win on this. people can and will vote with their feet. white familes started taking thier kids out schools when integrating black students to the schools took place. as a result, you end up with segregated schools anyway.

      • Westchester Bill

        Yes, you see the difficulty of the disparate impact problem. Ken Clark argued in Brown vs Board that segregation caused the disparate outcomes in educational achievement. Reshuffling done by law, including court orders, should have reduced the differential in results. It didn’t, and well meaning people doubled down on efforts to mitigate the gap including the completely inane no-child-left-behind policy. But in doing so the New york City system, the great help for immigrants in the past, became one of the most segregated systems in the country.

        • Why do you think social engineering by law (reshuffling done by law) would work? The first result is to reduce educational expenditures by the cost of maintaining a large transportation fleet. The next result was to add, especially in rural areas, 2-3 hours to the school day busing them around the county. The third result was to force the school districts to focus more on balancing numbers than on educating those numbers. We’ve spent the better part of the last 50 years working on balancing color when the educational system would have been better off with “you go to the closest school” and spending more time on the quality of that education. My guess is that most of the “problems” would have sorted themselves out over time.

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